Possible confusion between cadency and normal charge

[Michael F. McCartney]

A couple of immediate reactions -

First, a good start, but you might want to make the boars larger, to better fill the available space.

Second, the crescent does come across as
likely a cadency mark, given it's location and size. There just isn't sufficient space above the point of the chevron for a non-cadency crescent. If you were to move the crescent to the base (below the chevron) and enlarge it to fill the available space, it would look like a normal charge rather than a mark of cadency.

That's about all I can say without some idea as to the reasons for the charges - e.g. who or what they represent...

[J Duncan of Sketraw]

I agree with Michaels reaction......good start though:)

[Martin Goldstraw]

A competent artist could make this better. If the chevron was more acute it would give more room for larger boars but here the crescent can't be mistaken for a mark of cadency.

Please note that no check has been made to see if this design clashes with any existing one.

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[Michael F. McCartney]

My guess (only that) is that while you may find something similar, the chevron countetchanged likely will be different - but I could well be wrong!

[Michael F. McCartney]

Also, could you share a bit of basic info re: your friend? e.g. surname or roots, a bit of his family history, etc.? Not looking to highjack your design process, just maybe make better informed suggestions.

[Mark A. Henderson]

Here is a quick image I devised.

[Michael F. McCartney]

Mark - nice work!
Brian - your anonymous friend now has two similar but not identical designs (versions,) to consider - the only heraldically significant difference being Martin's boars rampant vs Mark's boars statant.

Before he decides on one or the other, you might suggest a "refrigerator test" for a few weeks (if you're not familiar with the term, just ask; I don't remember if it came up when you were designing your own arms).

[J Duncan of Sketraw]

Of the two I kind of like Marks boars statant.

[Michael F. McCartney]

Suggest he do the refrigerator test first! - before pasting bookplates in his favorite books!!!

One nice advantage of Argent and Sable is that a black and white image is already in full color!

[Martin Goldstraw]

Suggest he do the refrigerator test first! - before pasting bookplates in his favorite books!!!

One nice advantage of Argent and Sable is that a black and white image is already in full color!

Ha Ha - nice observation.

[Michael F. McCartney]