The Courts of a very powerful man.

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The Courts of a very powerful man.

Post by Martin Goldstraw » Sat May 27, 2006 9:37 pm

I have just placed a new page on my Cheshire heraldry site showing an engraving of the Court of Hugh Lupus 1st Earl of Chester. The engraving shows the armorial bearings of not only Hugh Lupus but also his advisers, the clergy and the barons. Cheshire was virtually an autonomous state (a county palatine) in the 11th Century and Hugh and his barons had the power of life and death over their subjects. The County actually had eight barons but this engraving restricts itself to four.
http://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk/lupus.html
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Post by C Ross of Biggar » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:44 pm

A very interesting illustration of the court! Martin. what was your source for the blazons of the arms ?
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Post by J Duncan of Sketraw » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:49 pm

Hi Charles & Martin,

I started to look around the web for info on the Earl of Chester (not knowing to much about him) is Hugh Lupas and Hugh d'Avranches d. 1101 one in the same person? I found a couple of nice images;

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From a pub sign

and the Earls of Chester from John Speeds map

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It is strange that on John Speed map it depicts the arms Gules and not Azure.
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Post by Martin Goldstraw » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:21 am

Hi Charles, John,

Charles,
The blazons are from a number of sources all of which cross reference each other. Primary source is/are the Visitations of Cheshire, others sources being King's Vale Royal and Ormord's History of the County Palatine of Cheshire.

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http://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk

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John,

Lupus and d'Avranches are one and the same. Hugh of Avranches, 1st earl of Chester, born c. 1047, died July 27, 1101 - also called Hugh The Fat, or Hugh The Wolf, French Hugues Le Gros, French- Latin Hugues Lupus son of Richard, Viscount d'Avranches, and probable companion of William the Conqueror, who made him Earl of Chester in 1071. (He inherited his father's viscountship sometime after 1082.)


It looks to me as though John Speed got it a little wrong with most of the blazons :roll:

The pub sign is nicely done but of course it is unlikely that the Normans had armorial bearings at the time they invaded England.
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Post by Nenad M. Jovanovich » Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:13 am

So, it's Azure after all?

If it would be Gules, it would be just the same as the arms of the Serbian Medieval family of Balshich.

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