Robert A. Cromartie, Baron of Urquhart No.0416

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Robert A. Cromartie, Baron of Urquhart No.0416

Post by J Duncan of Sketraw » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:27 am

The Arms of Robert Allen Cromartie of Urquhart-on-Spey, Baron of Urquhart, Scotland

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Re: Robert A. Cromartie, Baron of Urquhart No.0416

Post by Chris Green » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:09 am

Immediately recognisable as Scottish arms.

PS: I wonder why the horse's head has its tongue hanging out?
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Re: Robert A. Cromartie, Baron of Urquhart No.0416

Post by Martin Goldstraw » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:46 am

Chris Green wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:09 am
//snip// I wonder why the horse's head has its tongue hanging out?
It's the same on the Letters Patent, perhaps it has some private significance to the armiger? The sea horse badge also has its tongue sticking out.

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Re: Robert A. Cromartie, Baron of Urquhart No.0416

Post by Michael F. McCartney » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:37 am

There is an artistic difference between the usual Scottish and English versions of a boar's head couped. Neil Bromley's version has the neck couped (cut off) at the bottom of the neck, the usual English style, while the patent from Lyon has the neck couped close (just behind the head). Neither version is AFAIK "correct" or "incorrect" in any absolute sense, just general preference north & south of the Border. Same for a boar's head erased; and ditto for couped or erased for any other animal's head.
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Re: Robert A. Cromartie, Baron of Urquhart No.0416

Post by Chris Green » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:10 pm

I must say that I hadn't noticed the "English" neck on the boars, when I rashly said that I immediately recognised the arms as Scottish. Perhaps it is just that there seem to be more boars in Scottish heraldry.
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Re: Robert A. Cromartie, Baron of Urquhart No.0416

Post by Michael F. McCartney » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:21 am

Well, the red robe and cap would have been pretty good clues... ;)
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