Denis Anthony Hoban No. 318

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Denis Anthony Hoban No. 318

Post by J Duncan of Sketraw » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:00 pm

The Arms of Denis Anthony Hoban

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Re: Denis Anthony Hoban No. 318

Post by Michael F. McCartney » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:14 am

On the Armorial Register home page and in the alpa listing of registrations, where each name link is shown with a small flag avatar showing origin of the arms, Hoban is shown with a red flag charged with a gold star - the flag of the Democratic [i.e. Communist] Republic of Vietnam, which was the North Vietnamese flag until they overran the South and imposed their rule over the whole country.

This is ironic& likely inappropriate because the Hoban arms are stated to have been granted by the Imperial Grand Council of Vietnam; so the more appropriate flag might be the old South Vietnamese (RVN) flag - yellow with three red horizontal stripes across the middle (where a fess would go). This was originally IIRC the flag of Vietnam under Emperor Bao Dai who was deposed by Uncle Ho. This flag was retained by the noncommunist Republic of Vietnam government in Saigon.

The three red stripes represent the three historical parts of imperial Vietnam - north, central and south - centered on Hanoi, Hue and Saigon respectively. I assume that the Imperial Grand Council is supposed to represent the former Imperial dynasty.

Of course if Mr.Hoban and the Imperial Grand Council are satisfied to be identified by the current regime's flag, no problem. But in several of the Vietnamese emigre communities in the US, the old South Vietnamese (RVN) flag is still flown; and anyone flying the current Communist regime's flag, or for that matter referring to Saigon as Ho Chi Minh City, is likely to be run out of the local Little Saigon.

If this is an inappropriate place to raise this, feel free to delete; just wanted to let you know.

Mike~~
(25th Military Intelligence Detachment, 25th Infantry Division, Cu Chi, Republic of Vietnam, 1968-69; where the three-stripe RVN flag flew alongside the Stars & Stripes over our Division HQ)
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Re: Denis Anthony Hoban No. 318

Post by J Duncan of Sketraw » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:42 am

Its worth looking into Michael.
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