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by Chris Green
Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:07 pm
Forum: New Arms Registrations
Topic: Robert Taylor Koehler No. 0412
Replies: 10
Views: 9053

Re: Robert Taylor Koehler No. 0412

I'm sorry Chris but all you need do is a google image search for 'blue lion heraldry' to see plenty of examples of blue lions in heraldry, and many other creatures of 'incorrect' colours of various symbolisms. My dear Mark, I am well aware of the plethora of lions in every heraldic colour and in mo...
by Chris Green
Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:26 pm
Forum: New Arms Registrations
Topic: Dr. Martin Gray No. 0414
Replies: 8
Views: 6989

Re: Dr. Martin Gray No. 0414

My preference is for designs that depict the three elements approximately in the proportions they would have in real life. The proportions in Dr G's emblazonment are altogether at odds with this. Assuming that the helm could be worn, the shield would be too large to lift and the crest too heavy and ...
by Chris Green
Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:11 am
Forum: New Arms Registrations
Topic: Dr. Martin Gray No. 0414
Replies: 8
Views: 6989

Re: Dr. Martin Gray No. 0413

The shield may be oversized by modern standards but certainly isn't wrong. Many of the older grants had oversized shields and crests, with small helms. Indeed, but this emblazonment equips the small helm with a crest that is several sizes too large for it. Increase the size of the helm and the rela...
by Chris Green
Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:49 am
Forum: New Arms Registrations
Topic: Robert Taylor Koehler No. 0412
Replies: 10
Views: 9053

Re: Robert Taylor Koehler No. 0412

Agreed about the 'hooved' instead of 'armed', but perhaps the colours are not so significant to the armiger? Perhaps it is more the symbolism in the forms and not the symbolism in the colours that he is more concerned with, a blue lion for example won't take away from the fact that it still has the...
by Chris Green
Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:30 pm
Forum: New Arms Registrations
Topic: Dr. Martin Gray No. 0414
Replies: 8
Views: 6989

Re: Dr. Martin Gray No. 0413

Either Dr Gray has a particularly small head or his helm has shrunk in the wash.
by Chris Green
Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:28 pm
Forum: Other Heraldry
Topic: German Imperial Ring
Replies: 2
Views: 8213

Re: German Imperial Ring

My immediate thought is that it was made from a coin, by carefully cutting away the "field" on which the eagle sat. If so that would make it likely to have been the work of a soldier (or sailor) during WW1. I used to own a couple of planes made from English farthings, but they were WW2 vintage. Have...
by Chris Green
Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:32 am
Forum: New Arms Registrations
Topic: Robert Taylor Koehler No. 0412
Replies: 10
Views: 9053

Re: Robert Taylor Koehler No. 0412

Thank you. I am extremely surprised that someone who wants to emphasise Christianity would not understand the significance of the Agnus Dei and its unique appearance.
by Chris Green
Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:23 pm
Forum: New Arms Registrations
Topic: Robert Taylor Koehler No. 0412
Replies: 10
Views: 9053

Re: Robert Taylor Koehler No. 0412

I have three problems with the Agnus Dei. An Agnus Dei or Paschal Lamb must of its very nature be argent (or proper). It is after all intended to represent Christ as a sacrificial lamb, not some sort of devil sheep. Secondly, an Agnus Dei (or indeed any sheep or lamb) cannot be "armed". It has no cl...
by Chris Green
Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:03 pm
Forum: New Arms Registrations
Topic: Jan Joop van der Hagen N0. 0413
Replies: 2
Views: 3943

Re: Jan Joop van der Hagen N0. 0413

Fascinating historic arms.

The English blazon says two bends, but I would argue that they are in reality bendlets. I wonder what the original Dutch blazon says.

We seem to be missing the last line(s) of the text relating to the book.
by Chris Green
Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:34 am
Forum: Other Heraldry
Topic: Knightley/Cotes arms- I have a theory?
Replies: 5
Views: 9936

Re: Knightley/Cotes arms- I have a theory?

I was not of course suggesting that the Cotes crest was invented as a substitute for the ancient Cotes arms. I can quite well imagine that a Cotes at some stage, probably during the 14th century (like many others whose arms were created before crests became commonplace) decided that the cock that gr...
by Chris Green
Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:00 am
Forum: Other Heraldry
Topic: Knightley/Cotes arms- I have a theory?
Replies: 5
Views: 9936

Re: Knightley/Cotes arms- I have a theory?

That is all fascinating stuff, but does not explain why John Cottes (sic) bore a banner of the ancient Cotes arms in Henry VIII's army in 1513. By your theory the Cotes family would then have been using the Knightley arms for going on 200 years. John Cotes can hardly have rummaged around in his cupb...
by Chris Green
Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:51 pm
Forum: Other Heraldry
Topic: Cotes of Woodcote
Replies: 8
Views: 13302

Re: Cotes of Woodcote

Joseph: As I say, my Latin isn't really up to the task, but it seems clear that the Cotes/Knightley connection dates back to one marriage way back in the time of Edward II or III. The Latin text at the beginning of the Cotes entry on p 149 refers I believe to a transfer of land between Knightley and...
by Chris Green
Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:19 pm
Forum: Other Heraldry
Topic: Cotes of Woodcote
Replies: 8
Views: 13302

Re: Cotes of Woodcote

Martin: What you say is certainly true, but not in the case of Cotes, where the visitation states that Q1 is Cotes, but the (later) footnote explains that Quarterly 1 and 4 Ermine and 2 and 3 Paly of six Or and Gules were "originally the arms of Knightley...". The original arms of Cotes: Argent a Co...
by Chris Green
Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:55 am
Forum: Other Heraldry
Topic: Cotes of Woodcote
Replies: 8
Views: 13302

Re: Cotes of Woodcote

On page 150, I note that Robertus de Cotes was married to Alicia, sister of Roger de Knightley. But I can see no other family connection, certainly nothing that would allow of the Knightley arms appearing at Q1 of the Cotes arms. There must be more to this than meets the eye, but on the face of it t...
by Chris Green
Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:24 pm
Forum: Other Heraldry
Topic: Cotes of Woodcote
Replies: 8
Views: 13302

Re: Cotes of Woodcote

My Latin is by no means up to translating this. But I think it is about land (messuage) that passed between Roger de Knightley and Thomas de Cotes. There is clearly a relationship between the two, though not I think a family one. Could it be that Cotes inherited the Knightley land and somehow assume...
by Chris Green
Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:08 pm
Forum: Other Heraldry
Topic: Cotes of Woodcote
Replies: 8
Views: 13302

Cotes of Woodcote

Joseph James asked the following: Now getting past apologies and my feeble attempts at jocularity. I was going type in the Latin I would like translated, but there are abbreviations I can't reproduce on my keyboard. Since I'm basically computer illiterate my only recourse is to tell anyone intereste...
by Chris Green
Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:35 pm
Forum: Other Heraldry
Topic: What if Edward VIII ?
Replies: 6
Views: 10898

Re: What if Edward VIII ?

Joseph: I realised the purpose of your enquiry, but thought it might be instructive to other readers to know that your scenario was unlikely for more than one reason. PS: Put the Latin up on the Forum and let us have a go! PPS: The Queen's left hand: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/7d/0d/3...
by Chris Green
Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:42 am
Forum: Other Heraldry
Topic: What if Edward VIII ?
Replies: 6
Views: 10898

Re: What if Edward VIII ?

If "Edward VIII" and his wife had had a child it would have probably been introduced into the bedroom in a warming pan. Firstly, they didn't have a child as Duke and Duchess of York, and secondly, Wallis was rumoured to be infertile as a result of a botched abortion. As the daughter of the Duke of Y...
by Chris Green
Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:23 pm
Forum: New Arms Registrations
Topic: Michael J.P.B.M. Campbell No.0410
Replies: 2
Views: 4044

Re: Michael J.P.B.M. Campbell No.0410

The emblazonment of Mr M J P B McF C's arms seems to have faded somewhat since the purpure is clearly not purpure but dark pink. Only the badge seems to have avoided this fate.

Are the other Mr McF C's arms marshalled vice versa (sinister becomes dexter etc)?
by Chris Green
Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:36 am
Forum: Historical Heraldry
Topic: Lord Lyon Proclamation at Edinburgh 1888.
Replies: 6
Views: 17726

Re: Lord Lyon Proclamation at Edinburgh 1888.

Current Scottish heralds, like their English colleagues, wear a somewhat baggy form of the Tudor bonnet, not dissimilar to that worn by Knights and Ladies of the Garter and other British Orders of Chivalry, or indeed to the cap worn in the only extant picture of the first Lord Lyon whose image has b...
by Chris Green
Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:48 am
Forum: Flying Heraldry
Topic: A new armorial standard from South Africa
Replies: 6
Views: 25703

Re: A new armorial standard from South Africa

Some people desire their own arms created just for them rather than assuming the arms of an family member and South Africa grants some pretty nice Armorial Bearings so why not use them? But as I pointed out, Mr v Bergen Quast went to great lengths to establish a connection to a noble German family....
by Chris Green
Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:24 pm
Forum: Flying Heraldry
Topic: A new armorial standard from South Africa
Replies: 6
Views: 25703

Re: A new armorial standard from South Africa

Mr v Bergen Quast has worked hard to prove that he is entitled to the HRE title of Freiherr. To achieve this he has linked in a curious way authorities in the Netherlands, Austria, Scotland and South Africa, together with the former kingdom of Bourbon-Sicily. What he seems to have failed to do yet i...
by Chris Green
Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:47 pm
Forum: New Arms Registrations
Topic: Dieter Bryant Rudolph No.0407
Replies: 5
Views: 7114

Re: Dieter Bryant Rudolph No.0407

I am sure that the emblazonment reflects accurately what the armiger had in mind. But were they starting from the blazon I suspect that the majority of heraldic artists would depict the mullets and plate considerably larger than this illustration.
by Chris Green
Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:31 pm
Forum: The Armorial Register
Topic: Blazon Queery
Replies: 14
Views: 21164

Re: Blazon Queery

Your version is certainly clearer Martin.
by Chris Green
Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:09 pm
Forum: The Armorial Register
Topic: Blazon Queery
Replies: 14
Views: 21164

Re: Blazon Queery

For a start "of the colours" is superfluous since "counterchanged" tells us that the same tinctures are to be used.

What or who are "The Society of Commoners (Wot no apostrophe?!) Heraldry"? Can't find them on the internet.