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by Kathy McClurg
Tue May 26, 2015 4:48 am
Forum: The Use & Application of Heraldry
Topic: Display by one's spouse
Replies: 47
Views: 14760

Re: Display by one's spouse

I'm not particularly skilled with the technology -- past computer illiterate, more like computer dyslexic -- maybe you or SKS could move or duplicate your last post & this reply as a new thread? "Pro's and Con's of Cadency?" or some such new title? I don't know how to move these things around eithe...
by Kathy McClurg
Sun May 24, 2015 11:01 am
Forum: The Use & Application of Heraldry
Topic: Display by one's spouse
Replies: 47
Views: 14760

Re: Display by one's spouse

Both. Over the years I've come to prefer the relative ;) simplicity of undifferenced family arms, but to each family (or even each individual within a family) their own preferred approach, at least in the US context. There are arguments both ways, both symbolic and artistic; but neither approach is...
by Kathy McClurg
Wed May 13, 2015 12:18 am
Forum: The Use & Application of Heraldry
Topic: Display by one's spouse
Replies: 47
Views: 14760

Re: Display by one's spouse

(Continued). Shifting gears, differencing between immediate or near relatives bearing the same surname isn't necessary in the American (or pretty much any other non-Scottish / non-Canadian) context, though it's certainly permissible for those who want it; that's of course your family's call if the ...
by Kathy McClurg
Sun May 10, 2015 2:51 am
Forum: The Use & Application of Heraldry
Topic: Display by one's spouse
Replies: 47
Views: 14760

Re: Display by one's spouse

Michael, You've got it on the basic concept of a married couple using the non-armed surname. If you read very early in the thread - your original "as if" appeared to be referring to a woman with arms in her own right. There is no "as if" in that case. She is treated as any other person with arms. It...
by Kathy McClurg
Sun May 10, 2015 2:46 am
Forum: The Use & Application of Heraldry
Topic: Display by one's spouse
Replies: 47
Views: 14760

Re: Display by one's spouse

Cathy, Not cadency then. So the differencing would not be intended to give any indication of the armiger's relationship to the head of the family, simply that there is some sort of relationship? One of the ways that it could be done is through use of different tinctures, though the combinations are...
by Kathy McClurg
Fri May 08, 2015 9:08 pm
Forum: The Use & Application of Heraldry
Topic: Display by one's spouse
Replies: 47
Views: 14760

Re: Display by one's spouse

Chris, When I say differencing, I am not saying cadency - cadency is a form of differencing which I generally do not advocate with the possible exception of the label. Michael, one must leave the mindset of "heraldic heiress" entirely, IMHO. One is and heir to arms or not. note that nowhere did I in...
by Kathy McClurg
Thu May 07, 2015 1:06 am
Forum: The Use & Application of Heraldry
Topic: Display by one's spouse
Replies: 47
Views: 14760

Re: Display by one's spouse

Actually, what I am attempting to think through is using no more than 4 quarters, the surname always in the primary quarter. Next nearest relative's arms in second quarter. it rolls kind of like this: One parent with arms - the arms pass to the next generation as is if surname is same, if surname ch...
by Kathy McClurg
Tue May 05, 2015 11:41 am
Forum: The Use & Application of Heraldry
Topic: Display by one's spouse
Replies: 47
Views: 14760

Re: Display by one's spouse

Nope, Chris. I saw it.
by Kathy McClurg
Mon May 04, 2015 11:32 pm
Forum: The Use & Application of Heraldry
Topic: Display by one's spouse
Replies: 47
Views: 14760

Re: Display by one's spouse

Justifying it on "custom" is, merely, wrong.. The customs which we inherit from our forbears may not coincide with the views of some people alive today but that does not make them wrong. The great majority of people in the western world inherited their surnames from their fathers. Their children ha...
by Kathy McClurg
Mon May 04, 2015 11:06 pm
Forum: Heraldic Design
Topic: Questions about the arms in my family
Replies: 4
Views: 5840

Re: Questions about the arms in my family

Kasper, I think before ruling any options out - we should first have to find a member from the Netherlands so the customs there can be adhered to. However, there are places where arms are in use from or by both sides of the family (Spain comes to mind). A note has been sent to someone we hope will w...
by Kathy McClurg
Fri May 01, 2015 5:07 pm
Forum: The Use & Application of Heraldry
Topic: Display by one's spouse
Replies: 47
Views: 14760

Re: Display by one's spouse

If both parents have arms in their own right, Then are you advocating that the paternal line's arms have priority to the maternal line? That's a bit of a reflection of a rather old legally discriminatory sexist practices. Justifying it on "custom" is, merely, wrong... I prefer simpler arms as well, ...
by Kathy McClurg
Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:56 pm
Forum: The Use & Application of Heraldry
Topic: Display by one's spouse
Replies: 47
Views: 14760

Re: Display by one's spouse

One minor quibble, Michael, "she would then be an heraldic heiress in her own right" (in several places above - or generally said).. NO, She'd be the bearer of her own, unique arms and no more an "heir" to those arms than a man who has assumed his own arms. ;) (studiously avoiding the term "armiger"...
by Kathy McClurg
Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:56 am
Forum: Historical Heraldry
Topic: Label of 2 and Label of 4
Replies: 4
Views: 2924

Re: Label of 2 and Label of 4

Michael F. McCartney wrote:You might also want to learn what they signified to see if it's consistent (or at least not undesirably inconsistent) with your own use of it.
I may put that on my "list" of things to do, Michael. I suspect though that my lack of languages and current list may push it off for some time. ;)
by Kathy McClurg
Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:52 am
Forum: The Use & Application of Heraldry
Topic: Display by one's spouse
Replies: 47
Views: 14760

Re: Display by one's spouse

Good evening, all. I have a question that I should like to address to those members of this body who are married: What display, if any, do you permit your spouse? I have seen the lozenge employed for widows, but what provision is there for a wife to display her living husband’s arms? What forms cou...
by Kathy McClurg
Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:10 pm
Forum: Heraldic Design
Topic: Helms and other head coverings???
Replies: 7
Views: 2554

Re: Helms and other head coverings???

I am among those who believe some alternatives to the traditional helm may have merit - particularly academic regalia. Generally, however, I do believe that alternative headgear needs to be consistent with being alternative, in that.. a Fighter Pilot would not wear a crest or mantle.. so if one wish...
by Kathy McClurg
Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:20 pm
Forum: Heraldic Design
Topic: Potential Coat of Arms
Replies: 10
Views: 3367

Re: Potential Coat of Arms

Could you provide more of your design rationale? It is easier to make recommendations is we know what you are trying to portray...
by Kathy McClurg
Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:23 pm
Forum: Heraldic Events
Topic: International Heraldry Day-Join the Party!
Replies: 9
Views: 7942

Re: International Heraldry Day-Join the Party!

International Heraldry Day 2015 T-shirt is available. This year's color is Ash. Zazzle Controls Pricing. Strongly recommend checking in for deals - today in the USA all orders are 15% off. As we are aware of sales, we will do our best to post them on the IHD FB page. Celebrate Heraldry! Note: Becaus...
by Kathy McClurg
Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:22 pm
Forum: Heraldic Events
Topic: International Heraldry Day-Join the Party!
Replies: 9
Views: 7942

Re: International Heraldry Day-Join the Party!

Always June 10, 2015. Of course, if this is inconvenient you are certainly invited to celebrate on a nearby weekend..
by Kathy McClurg
Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:45 am
Forum: Heraldic Events
Topic: International Heraldry Day-Join the Party!
Replies: 9
Views: 7942

Re: International Heraldry Day-Join the Party!

International Heraldry Day (IHD) focuses one day each year when heraldry in all its forms is celebrated worldwide. Regardless of jurisdiction, geographic area, customs, favored styles and favored period, the community focuses on wider joys of heraldry. The goal of the organizers is that eventually a...
by Kathy McClurg
Sat May 10, 2014 8:15 pm
Forum: Heraldic Events
Topic: International Heraldry Day-Join the Party!
Replies: 9
Views: 7942

Re: International Heraldry Day-Join the Party!

Ladies and Gentlemen, For those of you not engaged in social media, I wanted to give you the opportunity to see some of the efforts going into promoting International Heraldry Day 2014. Using the badge design and graphic done by Alexander Liptak last year and artwork developed specifically to promot...
by Kathy McClurg
Tue May 06, 2014 3:41 pm
Forum: Heraldic Events
Topic: International Heraldry Day-Join the Party!
Replies: 9
Views: 7942

International Heraldry Day-Join the Party!

International Heraldry Day is coming upon us fast! Mark your calendar – JUNE 10, 2014! Let’s have one day where heraldry is celebrated in all its forms by everyone with an interest regardless of jurisdiction, geographic area, favored styles, and favored year. To post celebratory events or just perso...
by Kathy McClurg
Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:37 pm
Forum: Heraldic Art
Topic: My arms by Barrie Burr
Replies: 2
Views: 1442

Re: My arms by Barrie Burr

Nicely Done.
by Kathy McClurg
Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:33 pm
Forum: Historical Heraldry
Topic: Label of 2 and Label of 4
Replies: 4
Views: 2924

Re: Label of 2 and Label of 4

Aye, but given that it existed in this instance - it does make me wonder if it existed elsewhere and if so, how did it go out of "vogue"
by Kathy McClurg
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:35 pm
Forum: Historical Heraldry
Topic: Label of 2 and Label of 4
Replies: 4
Views: 2924

Label of 2 and Label of 4

Not quite sure this is the place, but looking through this book on Portuguese Heraldry: Livro Do Amerio-Mor we found an example of a label of 4 and a label of 2. My daughter's arms have a label of 2 which we thought was an "innovation" per se.. but we now find it's a historic one... :lol: It's my un...
by Kathy McClurg
Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:27 am
Forum: Heraldic Art
Topic: Grandfather's arms
Replies: 4
Views: 1996

Re: Grandfather's arms

Nicely done Jeremy.